Japanese gaming website Famitsu is celebrating Final Fantasy 10’s 20th anniversary with a special creator interview and it’s led to some never-before-revealed info. The same interview revealed that Final Fantasy X-3 has a chance of success.

Although it’s a long interview, one of the most fascinating revelations is right at its beginning. Tidus was once designed to be a plumber. Tetsuya Namura, a character designer, even drew him as one. Nomura said that the overalls remind him of a plumber’s outfit when he was asked about Tidus’ design. However, a plumber doesn’t need so many belt buckles or chains.